A week ago, the dramatic stand off in Burns, Oregon erupted suddenly, without warning over Dwight (73) and Steven (46) Hammond’s court order to surrender to prison for a second time, on charges of “terrorism”, as punishment for a controlled burn to offset a lightning fire which accidentally jumped over to BLM lands. What BLM decries as “arson,” ranchers consider healthy land management practices to prevent the sort of large scale forest fires that have destroyed thousands of acres of lands elsewhere in Oregon and California. The rest is history: After a public protest, Ammon and Cliven Bundy took over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. The situation appeared so dire that Oathkeepers and liberty activities feared the protest might spark a second Waco conflagration with federal authorities. That’s when they invoked “safety committees”— and changed the whole dynamic of the confrontation, as today’s guests, Cyrellys Geibendach and “Quintas Dias” from the Liberty Community relate.. For the most part, elected officials have stayed away, but real community leaders have stepped into the leadership void, and have been hearing grievances and working out better strategies for making sure the Hammonds’ nightmare ordeal in prison doesn’t occur again. In the process, we’ve learned that 100 RANCHERS in Eastern Oregon have been pushed off their lands by BLM technocrats. It’s a lesson in successful civic action that everybody needs to hear.