November 14, 2012
Less than a week after a New Orleans suburbanite petitioned the White House to allow Louisiana to secede from the United States, petitions from seven states have collected enough signatures to trigger a promised review from the Obama administration.
By 6:00 a.m. EST Wednesday, more than 675,000 digital signatures appeared on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states, according to a Daily Caller analysis of requests lodged with the White House’s “We the People” online petition system.
A petition from Vermont, where talk of secession is a regular feature of political life, was the final entry.
Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures, the number the Obama administration says it will reward with a staff review of online proposals.
The leader of a secessionist group in Texas said Tuesday that a petition on the White House website to separate the state from the nation is growing in popularity because the “union has fundamentally changed.”
“The fact of the matter is, that there cannot be a union between those that esteem the principles of Karl Marx over the principles of Thomas Jefferson. Here in Texas, we esteem those principles of Thomas Jefferson — that all political power’s inherent in the people,” Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement, said Tuesday on Fox News. “What we have seen given on Tuesday was that a majority of the people in the United States, and the states in which they reside, esteem the principles of Karl Marx over those principles.”
On the White House’s “We the People” website, a petition asking the administration to “Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government” so far has more than 95,000 signatures (not all of them from Texans). The White House says it will respond to all petitions that within 30 days receive more than 25,000 signatures.
At least 47 states are represented by similar petitions, while others have started petitions in response to the secessionist requests. For instance, there’s a petition to “Keep the United States United,” as well as a petition to “Peacefully grant the city of Austin Texas to withdraw from the state of Texas & remain part of the United States.”
Miller told Fox News host Sean Hannity that he doesn’t expect the petition to do much more than “send a clear message.” He does, however, want state lawmakers to take up the issue.
“Ideally what we would like to see is the legislature put it to a non-binding referendum,” he said. “So the people of Texas could express their will on this issue. The polling we have done internally in our organization in every county in Texas shows we would carry a majority of Texas, but I think that takes us to the next step here.”
Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s office has said the governor doesn’t support calls to secede, although he “shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government.”
Republican Rep. Ron Paul, meanwhile, still believes that “it’s very American to talk about secession,” given that the U.S. began with 13 colonies seceding from the British.
It’s barely been a week since President Obama’s re-election, and some people can’t believe, truly can’t believe, that things didn’t go their way.
As of Wednesday morning, 37 states had posted petitions on the White House website to secede from the United States of America. (Some not-so-brilliant citizens of Georgia and South Carolina actually have two different secession postings each, but I’m counting those knuckleheads only once.)
I’m sorry to report that this not-so-illustrious group includes California, where nearly 7,000 citizens have signed a petition quoting the Declaration of Independence and insisting on the right to set up their own government.
This is clearly part of a movement to draft all the states, and Lord knows that there are certainly enough foolish people in each and every state in the union who would be willing to put their name on anything at all.
But seeing as this country did fight the most bloody war in its history over the secession of the chattel slavery-holding states, it’s sad to see that those are the same states that currently boast the most popular secession petitions.
Louisiana (around 30,000 signatures). Florida (about 24,000). South Carolina (around 28,000). Alabama (nearing the 23,000 mark). And last but never least, Texas, which rates as the state most likely to secede at more than 80,000 signatures.
At first, I was sad. After hundreds of years, after the travesty of slavery and the heartbreak of war, after the outrage of an aborted Reconstruction and the treasonous decades of Jim Crow – have these states learned nothing at all?
Then I started thinking a little more strategically. Centuries of heavily enforced inequality in certain states have left them incapacitated for the modern economy. What do they contribute to the current union, anyway?
What would happen if we just decided to let them go? Imagine the possibilities. After a short phase-out period (so that the panicked citizens of New Orleans; Austin; and Washington, D.C., can join us), we let these ungrateful states go. And pull up the borders after us – the electric fence they’re always so interested in having.
My prediction? Absolute chaos in the Southern states as they realize we’re possessed of 85 percent of the country’s venture capital and entrepreneurs and two-thirds of the country’s tax revenue.
Meanwhile, nothing but happiness as the arugula-eating states lavish on projects like infrastructure and education those tax dollars we’d previously been sending to the red states.
But in case some of us feel so inclined, we could set up a visa system for the more industrious citizens of those states, because they’ll certainly be interested in working in a more advanced economy.
Call it a “guest worker” program for our neighbors. Congress might even be willing to consider a generous immigration reform for them.
After several years of this experiment, my guess is that the Southern states will be begging to be let back into the Union.
The matter will have to be put up to a vote, of course. But should the rest of us be feeling so generous as to share the national bounty with our former citizens again, I bet that they’ll be quiet about secession for a long time to come – no matter who’s in charge of the White House.
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Author: Silence DoGood
Texas Governor Rick Perry, whom has attended the Bilderberg meeting in 2007 and has also mandated the vaccine Gardasil to 11-year old girls that permanently harmed them thanks to a Executive Order style mandate, has decided to stand with the Union and refuses to stand with the most popular State Secession petitions which is Texas.
The Huffington Post reveals that “Texas Gov. Rick Perry does not stand behind a secession petition filed with the White House by a Lone Star State resident in the aftermath of the presidential election.”
As what was explained in another article earlier today, only the President can make a treaty with 3/4 of the Senate concurred, which can allow the states to legally and peacefully secede from the union which is the United States of America. There has been talk that a treaty may not even be needed for Texas since it was declared the lone-star state and that whenever it had joined the union, that the treaty clause already has a provision allowing Texas to leave the union although I haven’t done research to confirm this. If confirmed then all it takes is the Texas state legislature to approve Texas leaving the union then Texas will become it’s own republic under it’s own Constitution with no Federal Government. This also means the Texas US Senators and Congresspeople will also be out of a job since they represent a state that may decide to no longer be apart of the United States.
The second most popular State secession petition on Whitehouse.gov petitions system is Louisiana that clocked at 30,579 around the same time as the Texas petition recorded by this article. Only 25,000 signatures is needed to require a response from the White House according to their own policies on Petitions.Whitehouse.gov under the guise of following We The People. With the President declaring “that he will work around Congress” after the elections a unknown CNN video has shown, it is well doubtful that the President will just let the states slip through his fingers thus outdating the power of the President and Congress. The movement is growing as it has been reported that Mitt Romney won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote college.
In fact there is a chance that Obama may begin a civil war if the states begin to falter it’s support for a broken and dysfunctional Federal Government with out of control agencies and a powerful Executive Branch that usurps the three branches of power. There is also a chance that the petitions were created to entrap and detain rebellious people and arrest those that want to throw the Bilderberg banker control occupation out of the United States. Considering the fact that Rick Perry was a Bilderberg attendee, the Bilderbergs may not want this petition as it will destroy all hope for a North American Union and will make it more difficult to unite the world for the New World Order agenda.
By Stephen C. Webster
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:04 EST
Updates: Petitions ask if cities may secede from Texas
After becoming known as the only governor in the United States to raise the specter of secession, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) backed away from the threat this week, explaining that he swears allegiance to the U.S. but agrees with the “frustrations” felt by many conservatives in the wake of Mitt Romney’s decisive defeat.
To be clear, it’s a common misconception among Texans that the state can secede; it cannot. The brutal deaths of more than 750,000 Americans during the Civil War decided that nearly 150 years ago, enabling President Andrew Johnson to sign a proclamation saying that no state will ever have the right to leave the Union.
That’s not stopped more than 62,000 people — many of them Texans, but many from other states as well — from signing a White House petition asking for permission to renounce the U.S. Even though the number is less than 0.002 percent of the state’s population of more than 25 million people, the Obama administration’s “We the People” website says that any petition which receives more than 25,000 signatures will get a response.
While that response is percolating, Gov. Perry, for some reason, decided to fill the void. Reached by The Dallas Morning News, his office released the following statement on Sunday evening:
Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it. But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government. Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper. We cannot allow Washington’s tax and spend, one-size-fits-all mindset to jeopardize our children’s future, undermine our personal liberties and drive our nation down a dangerous path to greater dependence of government.
That will be a big disappointment to anyone who cheered Perry in 2009 after he spoke of secession by implication, saying: “If Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we’re a pretty independent lot to boot.”
It will also be a letdown to even some in Perry’s own party, like the treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, who wrote in the party’s newsletter than “the maggots” will soon eat “every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity [to secede].”
Although Perry has fought the feds on a litany of subjects like air quality standards, budget assistance, health care and reproductive rights, America-loving Texans can at least feel reassured that he’s not actually one of the 24 percent of Americans who think that states can legally secede.
Update: Second petitioner asks if El Paso may secede from Texas
In response to the popularity of a Texas man’s White House petition asking to let the state leave the U.S., an El Paso man has asked the White House to let the city secede from Texas.
“El Paso has little in common with the rest of Texas,” the petition explains. “Its demographics are more similar to New Mexico. El Paso is also proud to be part of the United States and wants no part of a state whom publicly contemplates secession from our great nation.”
However, much like Texas cannot secede from the U.S., El Paso cannot secede from its state. On a related note, much like the state’s other most populous areas, El Paso County is a Democratic Party stronghold and a key toehold in the party’s strategy to turn Texas blue by 2016.
Update: Austin now petitioning to leave the union
Reacting to the secession meme, an Austin, Texas resident launched a White House petition on Tuesday asking that the city be allowed to secede from Texas and remain part of the United States.
“Austin Texas continues to suffer difficulties stemming from the lack of civil, religious, and political freedoms imposed upon the city by less liberally minded Texans,” the petition explains. “It is entirely feasible for Austin to operate as its own state, within the United States, in the event that Texas is successful in the current bid to secede. It is important for Austin to remain in the union as to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers.”
The author concludes: “We would also like to annex Dublin Texas, Lockhart Texas, & Shiner Texas.”
Austin, like El Paso, is a Democratic Party stronghold.
Within a week of U.S. President Barack Obama’s re-election, citizens from 21 states have filed petitions asking to secede from the United States, according to the White House website.
Louisiana was first, posting its request on Nov. 7.
It was soon joined by Texas, on Nov. 9.
In asking for the president to “peacefully grant” permission for his state to withdraw from the union, creator Micah H., of Arlington, wrote: “To do so would protect its citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
Petitioners have one month to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the president to consider the request.
As of Monday morning, Louisiana had 13,197.
Texas had 17,260.
The petition from Florida was created Saturday — the same day the state finally declared Obama the victor in this election after another controversial ballot count. On Monday morning, it had 4,823 signatures.
The other 18 states with requests for secession: Alabama, North and South Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, Michigan, Indiana, North Dakota, Montana, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, New York, Arkansas, Georgia and Missouri.
All quote a passage from the Declaration of Independence that reads “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.”
The White House website has been bombarded with petitions that have mushroomed to all 50 states moving to secede. The first petition came in from Louisiana the day after Obama’s re-election, and since then a chorus of others have issued their grievances.
Now, under White House rules stated in its “We the People” program, if 25,000 people sign on by December 7th, a response must be issued. Just a few days after submitting, that number has been reached by the petitions from Texas, North Carolina, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee — with Texas closing in on 100,000.
Here is the current list of state totals for those near or over the threshold:
In total, the number is close to 700,000 across the nation.
Will the White House respond, or ignore the will of the people as it routinely does on the issues that matter most? One Florida resident is making national news; former Navy serviceman, Philip Hoezel, who turned his flag upside down in protest on Veterans Day.
While his neighbors berated him for the blasphemy, and for “hurting a lot of people’s feelings;” as a Navy man he would know that the traditional significance of the upside-down flag is to indicate a ship in its final moments of severe distress before it sinks — a ship of state, for instance. It is a form of peaceful protest that is increasing in numbers and is a statement as symbolic as these petitions.
November 12, 2012
Obama’s victory has encouraged several U.S. citizens to petition the government to address grievances concerning statehood, pursuant to the rights entitled under the First Amendment.
Last week, a man from Louisiana drafted a petition requesting to opt his state out of the continental United States following the announcement that Obama had secured a second term as president. Now people from 19 other states have followed suit.
According to the White House Petitions website, a total of 20 states are gathering signatures on petitions that would force the Obama administration’s response to requests to “peacefully grant” states withdrawal from the U.S. and allow the creation of new state-governed bodies.
Although the signing of these petitions are mainly symbolic gestures illustrating America’s discontent with the Obama administration’s policies, they are quickly gaining signatures and popularity.
On November 7, Michael E. from Slidell created Lousiana’s petition with notable inspiration from the Declaration of Independence, which states “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Texas’ petition cites the NDAA and the TSA as “blatant” abuses of Americans’ rights: “The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
Oregon’s petition asks to “Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the Union peacefully and remain an ally to the Nation,” saying, “The Federal Government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best intrests, and we as citizens would respectively and peacably seperate ourselves from a tyranical Government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children.”
Petitioning the government is nothing new, however, this new online signature format is. According to the Terms of Participation, each petition needs 25,000 signatures within 30 days before they require a response from the Obama administration.
These were the latest numbers as of writing this. Some states have two petitions:
1. Louisiana, 13,426
2. Texas, 18,012
3. Florida, 4,987
4. Alabama, 5,156
5. North Carolina, 4,623
6. Kentucky, 3,929
7. Mississippi, 3,849;
8. Indiana, 3,876;
9. North Dakota, 2,998
10. Montana, 3,378
11. Colorado, 3,746
12. Oregon, 3,230
13. New Jersey, 2,960
14. New York, 3,425
15. South Carolina, 3,193, 2,087
16. Arkansas, 1,537
17. Georgia, 3,912, 2,604
18. Missouri, 2,085, 2,781
19. Tennessee 3,656
20. Michigan 3,230
The number of states and the speed at which these petitions are procuring signatures are clear indicators that Americans are displeased with the election results and are waking up to the current administration’s flagrant corruption.
Author: Silence DoGood
State Secession is now a reality today with a battle between the Tenth Amendment, corrupt Executive branch, and corrupt Congress with a 9% approval rating. Petitions are being created by citizens across the country to get permission from the current US Presidential Administration to allow the states they reside in to secede from the union. USWGO in it’s earlier days advocated state secession from the union and supported Texas’s threat to secede from the union over a corrupt Administration working with the Bilderberg Group. USWGO also started the Nullify-NDAA Petition movement to get his state to go against a Federal law which would throw Americans into interment, torture, and death camps, in other words a concentration camp with no charge nor a court trial. Only Representative Bryan R. Holloway supported the petition while Rep. Bert Jones and Sen. Phil Berger refused to take action to redress the grievances so further action had prematurely failed.
Texas has already had enough signatures according to the Digital Journal and I quote it is titled “Texas secession petition to White House reaches 25,000 threshold.”
States such as Colorado with Amendment 64 and Washington both passed a Amendment into their state Constitutions’ making it a legal right to “legalize and regulate the production, possession, and distribution of marijuana for persons age 21 and older,” according to CNN. Even California allows marijuana for medical usage but despite the states legalization of a Federally banned substance, the feds can still detain, arrest, search and seize, and charge marijuana growers and users. That is what is paving the way for states getting sick and tired of a RepresentativeLess Federal government telling people what they can and cannot do yet will easily cave into lobbyists that work for major corporations and special interests.
Not to mention several states including the state of Virginia passed laws or found some other Constitutional way to fight the Federal National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal year 2012 law. North Carolina became a coward and turn tale and ran by their state senate president pro Tempore. Other states have yet to redress the issue of the NDAA 2012 law since a corrupt Federal Appeals court is protecting the Indefinite detention provision in direct violation of the the US Constitution by using the corrupt judicial branch and Executive branch as loopholes along with the corruption of the Congress.
Of course states can possibly secede from the Union, in other words legally declare to leave the union, of course they do need permission from the Obama Administration along with the US Senate as what is required by the US Constitution’s treaty clause.
“Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, includes the Treaty Clause, which empowers the President of the United States to propose and chiefly negotiate agreements between the United States and other countries, which become treaties between the United States and other countries after the advice and consent of a supermajority of the United States Senate,” according to Wikipedia.
That means that the US President would have to be petitioned by a large amount of people to persuade the President to allow states to legally leave the union and therefore would no longer be under the legal Jurisdiction aka the Jurisprudence of the United States Government. That includes Federal Courts, federal laws, federal executive orders, federal mandates, and all federal programs including assistance programs would no longer be enforced or active in the states that have left the union. Any government assistance programs including the Social Security program would have to be provided only by the state since the Feds will not operated in states that have left the union. All Congresspeople and Senators that represent the very states that can legally declare secession would also be out of a job since the very states they represent would be void once out of the union. Also all Federal Courts would either be shut down or switched over to the states to determine whether to destroy the Federal building or operate it as another state court. All Federal Marshals would also be out of business since they operate under US Code and state code, therefore the Federal Marshals service can either get authorization by the state legislature to continue their operations but only as a state marshal instead of a federal marshal or shut down. Also the FBI, CIA, and any other government agencies buildings would be shut down within the seceded states. FBI tasks would become only SBI tasks, Social Security may become statewide Social Security or another disability and elderly government insurance program to assist them financially. State police and local police won’t arrest nor enforce US laws since they would be null and void within a state that has become a country and does not belong to the Union. The Bill of Rights under the US Constitution would also be null and void but that only the state Constitution be the law of the land. The Federal Supreme Court, the appeals courts, and the lower federal magistrates would no longer has jurisdiction therefore the only Supreme Court that legally exists within the state is the state Supreme Court.
Here is how a state can legally secede from the union? It cannot be law because the law is just a code that citizens have to obey under Federal law and help guide the actions of the state legislatures and it’s people. It cannot be under the Constitution because it would be a hefty process such as Constitution Convention, plus approval from both Congressional houses plus 3/4 of the states which would be a crazy process just for one state to leave the union. Instead it only takes a treaty which only the power of the president has to make a treaty then have approval from two thirds of the US Senators concur. In other words the president, with help of a state secession petition, can draft a treaty with assistance by the states citizens and legislatures, to request that the state be allowed to voluntarily leave the union for whatever reason and purpose there is behind this action such as no confidence in the Federal Government and corruption in the Federal Government. It was the thirteen colony states that installed the Federal Government with support of the legislatures, then states can also leave the union but depends on what terms a territory or region agreed to before creating a legalized state that is officially apart of the United States.
For Example with the Town of Mayodan North Carolina, town of Madison, NC, City of Martinsville in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and any other municipal governments within the state, they all have a local Constitution type of declaration called a Charter. This declaration is a local law and legal deed approved by the legislature that gives a town or city it’s designated existence. Without this legal declaration, anyone whom lives within the county is only under the laws and ordinances of the state, Federal Government, and the County Government including the Board of Commissioners. Under a town or city, they also have to abide by county laws but also have their own form of laws called bylaws or ordinances and can only be enforced within the town or city limits. Outside a town or city, they would not have the legal jurisdiction, unless enforced and permitted by state law, to enforce town and city ordinances usually passed by the town or city council with approval from the local administration. Without a charter, the town and city does not legally exist nor has the legal abilities of a public Municipal corporation and body-politic. Same with the states, there would have to be come legal charter or declaration giving the states the legal power to be apart of the United States and in some cases, there may be a certain provision allowing a certain state to legally dissolve the marriage with the union. Similar to Marriage law, two people can join together as a legal union, in areas where multiple spouses can be married and become a union, in other words marriage is similar to the states joining the union. When a wife or multiple wives decide they no longer wish to be in the marriage union then a petition is filed in the court, usually a state court, called the ‘Dissolution of marriage’ under Family law in a Family court. Once the judge makes the ruling on the dissolution of marriage then that wife or wives no longer have to stay in the relationship nor union but also means no entitlement which would have happened by being within the union. The States can also petition for the dissolution of the marriage between the states and the United States. Marriage is only valid with a certificate of marriage declaring the two people or more under a marriage with multiple wives to be a legal union. States also have some form of certificate with the treaty system to which the states can either request to add to the treaty, the right for a state to leave the union, or if there is already a provision then all the state legislature has to do is approve of a resolution giving the state the authority under it’s Constitution to dissolve the connection and jurisdiction with the Union, therefore the state becomes a small country and the state legislature and Governors office becomes the highest office of the land instead of the Congress and White House.
Before anyone should get together a popular voice in the state secession movement, they need to know the pros and cons with it.
More will be added as comments and suggestions come in. Email u.s.w.g.o.admin @ gmail.com for personal suggestions for this article and table.
|Pros and Cons Table for State Secession||Pros||Cons|
|Constitution||(1)Federal Government would no longer be the Supreme Authority therefore all corrupt and bad Federal Court rulings would be void within the state. All corrupt Supreme Court Justices that commit high treason won’t have to be followed anymore under case law nor within the state.||(1)Any Constitutional Amendments within the Bill of Rights will be null and void. Any Federal Constitution Amendments that are not duplicated within the State Constitution will be lost and unenforceable.|
|Human Rights||(1)Slavery can still be banned just like within the Bill of Rights. The State would have to introduce a Constitutional Amendment banning any form of slavery and end racism. A federal Government isn’t needed to end slavery but only a government with good sense of morals and human rights support.||(1)It can be far easier for a state to legalize slavery of certain colors or even all humans then it would be for the US Constitution convention.|
|Executive Authority||(1)The White House, the Supreme Court, and the Congress would no longer have jurisdiction over the state that left the union. All Federal laws will be unenforceable within the state. The FBI will not exist within that state anymore so harassment of peaceful activists and news reporters will be history since the FBI has no regional jurisdiction over a state that is not within the Union.(2)The White House will not have any executive authority over the state, instead the governors office will be the commander in chief. The Governor will decide whether to start war with another state or not.||(1)The White House could decide to send troops into the states that left the Union since they are no longer under the protections of US Constitutional Law.|
|Government assistance||(1)All Corporate welfare sanctioned by the Federal Reserve and Congress would cease to exist.||(1)All Federally funded and sanctioned government assistance programs will not exist anymore and will collapse unless the state takes control of and sanctions the assistance programs such as Medicaid/Medicare, Supplemental Disability Income (SSI) benefits and other programs to help the elderly and disabled below the poverty line, Food Stamps (EBT/SNAP) also apart of the Department of Agriculture, Department of Energy assistance programs, and other federally sanctioned assistance programs.|
|Park Service||(1)All National parks within the respected state would have to be transferred to the State Government for protection of the natural resources and preserve the site for future generations. In other words all national parks would then have to be taken on by the state and become state protected grounds.(2)The National Park Service and Department of the Interior would not exist anymore within the secession states but instead the state park service or whatever legal name it is designated as will be in charge of all parks designated and declared by law to be protected and under that particular agency.||(1)Since the National parks are designated under US Code, if the state refuses to quickly add state code to re-designate the national park territories as a state park territory, then the National parks can be looted and destroyed since the land was only protected by the Federal Government.|
|Government Supremacy and Authority||(1)The Supreme Court and Federal Supremacy clause will have no merit. All authority will come from the state.(2)The State will have the authority and right to produce it’s own currency whether fiat or backed by backed by precious metal. As of before the Congress only had the authority to produce the currency by the Department of Treasury. Although the Congress has sold out the treasury to the US Private Federal Reserve complex.||(1)The very Federal Supremacy clause that hurts the states and it’s people, can also be a good thing in regards to state corruption and dealing with a out of control state leadership. Under a secession the Federal Government cannot legally and will not lift a finger against any issues within the state.|
|Criminal/Civil/Police||(1)All criminal and civil cases will be dealt with by the state, for only state laws.(2)If somebody was set-up as a criminal within another state they can be exiled by fleeing to the neighboring state and be protected from the corrupt law enforcement and be safe from political persecution.||(1)A Criminal that violated a law within the state can simply flee into another state before the secession begins and be protected by the state against the police from the other state since the police would have no jurisdictional authority under the more recent state of residence with the exception of extradition from one country state to another using a treaty system.|
|Political Corruption||(1)Political corruption within the Federal Government will cease to exist.(2)Corrupt Federal Court rulings would cease to exist and can be reset to the very beginning so if a new union forms between states, that union won’t enforce court rulings before the secession.(3)All Federal laws that are corrupt and in violation of the Constitution and harm the peoples liberties will also cease to exist.||(1)State Corruption will still exist and state politicians live more closer to people within each respected county therefore if the politician knows a district attorney within the county they can hunt down and kill/destroy political enemies exposing corruption within the state. The only thing that politician needs is an excuse or set up the person for a crime then slam them into prison. Usually when exposing a corrupt US Senator or Congressperson, they just ignore you but with a state politician, they know where you personally live locally and close to where they live.|
|Military/Defense Forces||(1)All US Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, Coast Guard, and any other military force bases would no longer belong to the Federal Government but to the state and it’s governor will become the Commander in Chief unless the State Constitution has no provision for this radical change without the state legislatures rapid and fast changes to the State Constitution.(2)The state will have to forge a State Defense Force or State National Guard, State Army or Militia, State Air Force, State Coast Guard, State Navy, and other needed state military forces.(3)The State can decide whether to create a intelligence agency to counter the CIA, NSA, and Defense Intelligence Agency the intelligence arm of the US Military.||(1)All foot and vehicle traffic would have to be subjected to inspection, seizure, or even state customs inspection when moving between states. Traveling between states will become rapidly difficult within encountering military and state boarder guards.(2)Traveling from one state to another may require a traveling VISA and Passport.|
At least this article can inform every American about the Pros and Cons and consequences with seceding from the Union. Before people start demanding that the states can leave the United States, they should at least know why they should, and be informed as to what changes may happen to the states citizens after a rapid change in Jurisdictional political authority and state power. You should make sure this is something you and your family wants before you forever be apart of a radical change to get your state to leave the corrupt but still a bit-fair United States.
By JG Vibes
November 13, 2012
People everywhere are sick and tired of what the government is doing and have been growing more frustrated by the day.
Along the way it has been fun and interesting to see the kinds of creative things that people do to undermine or peacefully work against the various systems of oppression that we are forced to live under.
This week one such plot made the news, in a situation where 15 people in different areas of the country each filed petitions to secede from the United States government.
One of these petitions has actually reached the threshold needed to be considered for a response from the white house.
Not long after the story hit the news the petition in Texas gained a ton of support and quickly reached the 34,000 signatures that was needed to break the threshold.
“The petition appeared on a section of the White House website called “We the People” that invites users with a U.S. zip code to submit or sign petitions about policy changes they would like to see.
A petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days for the administration to comment on it.
The petition to “Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government,” was submitted on Friday of last week.
Just three days later, it zoomed past the 25,000 mark at 3:22 p.m. today and kept going.”
The mainstream media sources that are covering this are either laughing it off or doing anything they can to slander the idea.
It will be interesting to see the kind of response that this gets from the White House, if any.
There have been quite a few issues that are important to many people that have reached the threshold for petitions but have still been denied or ignored.
Usually issues of a sensitive native involving war, torture, police state or economics are totally ignored, including petitions demanding the release of political prisoners.
The fact that this many people are getting involved with efforts to create something new, shows that the public is beginning to understand that the status quo is immoral, dangerous and unsustainable and that at least, is a good sign.
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